We just released the second beta of Thunderbird 31. Please help us improve Thunderbird quality by uncovering bugs now in Thunderbird 31 beta so that developers have time to fix them.
There are two ways you can help
- Use Thunderbird 31 beta in your daily activities. For problems that you find, file a bug report that blocks our tracking bug 1008543.
- Use Thunderbird 31 beta to do formal testing. Use the moztrap testing system to tests : choose run test - find the Thunderbird product and choose 31 test run.
Visit https://etherpad.mozilla.org/tbird31testing for additional information, and to post your testing questions and results.
Thanks for contributing and helping!
Ludo for the QA team
We just released the first beta of Thunderbird 30. There will be two betas for 30 and probably 2 or more for 31. We need to start uncovering bugs nows so that developers have time to fix things.
Now is the time to get the betas and use them as you do with the current release and file bugs. Makes these bugs block our tracking bug : 1008543.
For the next beta we will need more people to do formal testing - we will use moztrap and eventbrite to track this. The more participants to this (and other during the 31 beta period), the higher the quality. Follow this blog or subscribe to the Thunderbird-tester mailing list if you wish to make 31 a great release.
Ludo for the QA team
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We’ve just released another beta of Thunderbird. We are now in the middle of the release cycle until the next major version is released to our millions of daily users. (we’ve fixed 200+ bugs since the last major release (version 24)). We currently have less than 1% of our users - using the beta and that’s not enough to catch regressions - because Thunderbird offers mail, newsgroups and rss feeds we can’t cover the usage of our user base. Also many companies out there sell extensions for spam filtering, for virus protection and so forth. The QA community just doesn’t have the time to try all these and run these with Thunderbird betas to find issues.
And that’s where you dear reader can help. How you might ask well here is a list of examples of how you can help :
If you find issues let us know either thru bugzilla or thru the support forums, so we can try to address them.
ps the current download page says English only because of a bug in our build infrastructure for windows. Linux and Mac builds are available localized.
A recent twitter thread annoyed me about innovation in email :
E-mail didn’t really evolve since Gmail. Why is it so hard to innovate? http://t.co/Dw3CbqEMqT— news.yc Popular (@newsycombinator) February 28, 2014
That got me annoyed, because I always here we need to innovate with email and gmail is always taken as a reference in terms of email innovation.
But if you look at it gmail brought the following things to the world :
And that’s it. I’ve been involved with a MUA long enough now that I think email can’t be fixed by ‘just’ UI work or client work. Some things need to happen at the spec level and be implemented on both client and servers.
Unfortunately email has been around for 30ish years now and working for all that time - so fixing and simplifying can’t happen over night.
Let’s make a list of what needs to be fixed client side first :
On the server side there are way more things that need to be fixed
Of course the last thing to fix is users, why ho why on earth do I get a Microsoft word has an attachment - while I could have directly got the content in the email itself.
On march 25th 2014 I’m organizing a pgp key signing party in the Mozilla London office after working hours.
If you value privacy and email you should probably attend. In order to organize the meeting I need to know the number of participants , for that I’m requesting that people register using eventbrite.
For thos who don’t know how pgp key signing party work you should read this http://sietch-tabr.tumblr.com/post/61392468398/pgp-key-signing-party-at-mozilla-summit-2013-details.
Le 1er avril (c’est à dire le 1er Avril 2014) prochain j’organise une séance de signature de clef pgp et d’assurance CACert dans les locaux de mozilla à Paris.
Afin de pouvoir gérer correctement cet évènement, je demande aux participants potentiels de s’inscrire via eventbrite pour ne pas exploser la capacité de la salle.
Venez nombreux se sera fun.
This year I attended a full fosdem, after missing it last year and only having 1/2 fosdem the two years before. This year I attended more than a couple of talks outside of the mozilla room. I also helped setting up the Mozilla booth on the fist day.
I attended the keynote, how we found 10 millions errors in wikipedia - which turned about being only 1 millions with false positive. Overall a great presentation of the LanguageTool a nice grammar checking tool written in java. They have an extension for firefox/thunderbird that will let you grammar check after spell checking is done. Also they have a recent change pages for wikipedia so anyone can check grammar error in “realtime” on wikipedia. Last but not least they where looking for help to provide the tool in JS instead of Java.
Next I went to the mozilla room to get updates on Fennec, and how the google summer of code worked. Basically very interesting numbers.
I then on listen to a talk about scaling dovecot:
Very very interesting. Of course I asked what the shittiest client was. The answer was Thunderbird , because it tries to implement more. After the talk I went and asked Timo Sirainen if he could give me a list of such bugs. The answer was search for my name in bugzilla. My bugzilla fu being what it is I was of course unable to find any bugs :(
The next talk I listen to was also about email, but postfix this time - very very nice and informative about spam, and how to scale for spam. Full of interesting data.
My turn to talk came. You’ll find the slides here.
Sunday was less busy. I loosely listen to a talk about OTR, a good talk from the people at kaltura on HTML5 nad the video tag. I say very interesting because the lack of a file format standard really complicate things.
I then went on the largest PGP signing party. Will only sign 91 keys cause I had to go before the end.
Last but not least, ipv6 support was very strong on the fosdem network. Next year it will be full v6 only.
I took a bunch of pictures with my phone as I wanted to travel light with out my heavy Camera.
Update : Of course someone from #tb-qa with the proper bugzilla foo gave me the list of dovecot bug related.